• netmail, from address

    From Mindsurfer@1337:1/104 to All on Fri Aug 21 13:43:36 2020
    Hey,

    i have send some netmails back and forth with Meatlotion and he mentioned
    that my netmail has the hub address 1337:1/100 instead of 1337:1/104 as
    from address in it.
    How can this be fixed? What could cause that?

    i am using MagickaBBS and writing the messages from inside the bbs using Magiedit. huskys hpt is the tosser/scanner and binkd is sending and
    recieving the packets.

    do you have to look in hpt config? as i see it, the routing and link configuration is just fine.

    for example, hpt config:
    route crash 1337:1/100 1337:*
    route hold noroute 1337:1/104.*

    Link tqwnet
    Aka 1337:1/100
    ourAka 1337:1/104
    Password xxxxxxxxx
    pktpwd xxxxxxxx
    EchoMailFlavour Crash
    areafixAutoCreateDefaults -a 1337:1/104 -b Jam -p
    3650 -dupeCheck move -dupeHistory 14 -d "(tqwNet) " -g tqwnet
    linkMsgBaseDir /mnt/ssd1/bbs/ftn/msgs/tqwnet
    LinkFileBaseDir /mnt/ssd1/bbs/ftn/files/tqwnet
    filebox /mnt/ssd1/bbs/ftn/fileboxes/tqwnet
    forwardRequests on
    Packer zip
    allowPktAddrDiffer on
    LinkGrp tqwnet
    AccessGrp tqwnet

    hpt area configuration
    netmailarea NETMAIL_TQWNET /mnt/ssd1/bbs/ftn/msgs/int/netmail_tqwnet
    -b Jam -a 1337:1/104

    Mindsurfer

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  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to Mindsurfer on Fri Aug 21 22:57:11 2020
    Re: netmail, from address
    By: Mindsurfer to All on Fri Aug 21 2020 01:43 pm

    i have send some netmails back and forth with Meatlotion and he mentioned that my netmail has the hub address 1337:1/100 instead of 1337:1/104 as from address in it.
    How can this be fixed? What could cause that?

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able to confirm it...

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to alterego on Fri Aug 21 14:16:16 2020
    On 21 Aug 2020, alterego said the following...

    Re: netmail, from address
    By: Mindsurfer to All on Fri Aug 21 2020 01:43 pm

    i have send some netmails back and forth with Meatlotion and he menti that my netmail has the hub address 1337:1/100 instead of 1337:1/104 from address in it.
    How can this be fixed? What could cause that?

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able to confirm it...

    Yeah it's a weird one, I hope that it's something easy to solve whether it's
    a bug or just a misconfiguration somewhere. Keep us posted.

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    |07── |08[|10ark|08] |1510:104/2 |07─┘

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  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Aug 22 10:51:07 2020
    Re: Re: netmail, from address
    By: MeaTLoTioN to alterego on Fri Aug 21 2020 02:16 pm

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able to
    confirm it...
    Yeah it's a weird one, I hope that it's something easy to solve whether it's a bug or just a misconfiguration somewhere. Keep us posted.

    Yeah, its a bug - the message I got from Mindsurfer was fine.

    I reported that issue back in the day when I was playing with Mystic...

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  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Sat Aug 22 11:06:13 2020
    Re: Re: netmail, from address
    By: MeaTLoTioN to alterego on Fri Aug 21 2020 02:16 pm

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able to
    confirm it...

    Oh, and I probably should be clearer - I think its a presentation bug - it doesnt affect the delivery of Netmail (TTBOMK)..

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to alterego on Tue Aug 25 10:14:08 2020
    On 22 Aug 2020, alterego said the following...

    Re: Re: netmail, from address
    By: MeaTLoTioN to alterego on Fri Aug 21 2020 02:16 pm

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able to
    confirm it...

    Oh, and I probably should be clearer - I think its a presentation bug -
    it doesnt affect the delivery of Netmail (TTBOMK)..

    ...δεσ∩

    ... Extreme boredom serves to cure boredom.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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    I noticed that in the kludge of the netmails that is sent from hpt, there is
    no "@MSGID:" header line, that line is what Mystic will uses to know the
    node address of the sender right? The reason I see the HUB node address when the MSGID line is missing, is maybe because the line is missing so Mystic
    just uses the HUB node address instead as that was the last node it passed through?

    This is entirely speculation, but makes sense in my head, but I wonder why
    the MSGID header is missing from hpt messages? does that need to be
    configured somehow in the hpt config that is just missing for this one node?

    What do you think Deon?

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    |07── |08[|10ark|08] |1510:104/2 |07─┘

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Aug 25 10:18:36 2020
    I noticed that in the kludge of the netmails that is sent from hpt,
    there is no "@MSGID:" header line, that line is what Mystic will uses to know the node address of the sender right? The reason I see the HUB node address when the MSGID line is missing, is maybe because the line is missing so Mystic just uses the HUB node address instead as that was the last node it passed through?

    Here are two examples, one without the MSGID line from Mindsurfer using HPT, and one with the MSGID line from Deon using Synchronet;

    Missing:
    From : Mindsurfer (1337:1/100) Msg # : 127 of 128
    To : Christian Sacks (1337:1/101) Msg Date : 23/08/20 17:38
    Subj : the other test netmail Refer to : 0
    Stat : Echo Priv Read See Also : 128 =============================================================================== @INTL 1337:1/101 1337:1/104
    @TZUTC: 0200
    @CHRS: CP437 2
    @Via: 1337:1/104 @20200823.153816.UTC hpt/lnx
    @Via: 1337:1/100 @20200823.163937.UTC Mystic 1


    Included:
    From : Deon George (1337:2/101) Msg # : 118 of 128
    To : Christian Sacks (1337:1/101) Msg Date : 19/08/20 07:23
    Subj : Re: Status - MailHub Queue Refer to : 0
    Stat : Echo Priv Read See Also : 0 =============================================================================== @INTL 1337:1/101 1337:2/101
    @TZUTC: 1000
    @MSGID: 2409@1337:2/101 23a1864d
    @REPLY: 1337:1/101 960a9dda
    @PID: Synchronet 3.18a-Linux Aug 2 2020 GCC
    @CHRS: ASCII 1
    @NOTE: SlyEdit 1.73 (2020-03-31) (ICE style)
    @Via: 1337:2/101 @20200818.212355.UTC SBBSecho
    @Via: 1337:2/100 @20200818.212407.UTC hpt/lnx
    @Via: 1337:1/100 @20200818.222617.UTC Mystic 1

    What are your thoughts?

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    |07── |08[|10ark|08] |1510:104/2 |07─┘

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  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Tue Aug 25 23:00:29 2020
    Re: Re: netmail, from address
    By: MeaTLoTioN to alterego on Tue Aug 25 2020 10:14 am

    Howdy,

    This is entirely speculation, but makes sense in my head, but I wonder why the MSGID header is missing from hpt messages? does that need to be configured somehow in the hpt config that is just missing for this one node?

    MSGID is actually an echomail tag, not a netmail tag (TTBOMK). FTS-0001 makes no mention of MSGID.

    The addressing of netmail (defined in that spec), uses INTL, TOPT, FMPT to determine the to and from address in the message. In the PKT file, depending on
    the version also contains the to and from address - but that would be used by the tosser to determine where to route the message.

    Strangly, IIRC, Mystic does something different to determine the from address. (I noticed it when I used it.)

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  • From Mindsurfer@1337:1/104 to alterego on Fri Aug 21 20:03:46 2020
    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able
    to confirm it...

    have send one today. let me know how it looks.
    Thank you!

    Mindsurfer

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  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to Mindsurfer on Wed Aug 26 07:41:59 2020
    Re: RE: netmail, from address
    By: Mindsurfer to alterego on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:03 pm

    Howdy,

    Just got this - but I see you sent it a few days ago...

    I think its a bug with Mystic. Send me a netmail and I'll be able
    to confirm it...

    have send one today. let me know how it looks.
    Thank you!

    Anyway, I replied and it lookd good - confirming its a presentation bug in Mystic...

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to alterego on Wed Aug 26 09:42:04 2020
    have send one today. let me know how it looks.
    Thank you!

    Anyway, I replied and it lookd good - confirming its a presentation bug
    in Mystic...

    Thanks for confirming that it's a bug in Mystic... it doesn't affect the netmails in any other way, just found it all rather odd as it was the first time I noticed that before lol.

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    |07── |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07── |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07───┐ |07── |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07── |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07┬──┘ |07── |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07─┬ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07───┘
    |07── |08[|10ark|08] |1510:104/2 |07─┘

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    * Origin: thE qUAntUm wOrmhOlE, rAmsgAtE, uK. bbs.erb.pw (1337:1/101)
  • From alterego@1337:2/101 to MeaTLoTioN on Thu Aug 27 05:01:01 2020
    Re: Re: netmail, from address
    By: MeaTLoTioN to alterego on Wed Aug 26 2020 09:42 am

    Thanks for confirming that it's a bug in Mystic... it doesn't affect the netmails in any other way, just found it all rather odd as it was the first time I noticed that before lol.

    Yeah, I think Mystic figures the address out for netmails from other Mystic systems OK - but for everything else, its inconsistent.

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  • From Black Panther@1337:3/111 to alterego on Wed Aug 26 13:09:00 2020
    On 27 Aug 2020, alterego said the following...

    Yeah, I think Mystic figures the address out for netmails from other Mystic systems OK - but for everything else, its inconsistent.

    It looks like it might be fixed in the A46 pre alpha releases. I was just looking at the WhatsNew file.

    ! Fixed a display bug in the From field of routed Netmail messages.

    I usually wait until it's a public release before I upgrade CRBBS. :)


    ---

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@1337:1/101 to All on Wed Aug 26 23:22:51 2020
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 13:09:00 GMT
    Black Panther wrote:

    On 27 Aug 2020, alterego said the following...

    Yeah, I think Mystic figures the address out for netmails from other Mystic systems OK - but for everything else, its inconsistent.

    It looks like it might be fixed in the A46 pre alpha releases. I was just looking at the WhatsNew file.

    ! Fixed a display bug in the From field of routed Netmail messages.

    I usually wait until it's a public release before I upgrade CRBBS. :)


    Ah yeah I'm still on A43!
    I haven't upgraded yet as it _WILL_ break my BBS and I don't have enough time
    I can put aside to fix it once it breaks.


    --
    Best regards,
    MeaTLoTioN

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