• KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"

    From Andrew From Orel@VERT/BLUENOTE to All on Wed Jun 23 13:13:05 2021
    Hello!

    Several days ago I've seen one video at YouTube about ICQ revival project called KICQ. Some enthusiasts use their servers for connection by OSCAR protocol. So, if you have an old gadget which doesn't support New ICQ by Mail.ru, you can register new UIN at their server (195.66.114.37:5190) and log
    in using old clients like ICQ 2003, QIP 2005 etc.

    After watching that video I decided to try it out. I installed ICQ 2003b on my WinXP virtual machine as it described at manual (http://narodweb.ru/kicq.html) and registration was easy. Later I installed old Kopete from KDE3 on my Raspberry Pi 2 and successfully logged in.

    Yes, it's alive. There are not so much users, but they are online.

    OK, I must add that there were some problems to make it work with Pidgin and new Kopete (they are not compatible with old server IServerd which is used in KICQ), but it was an interesting experience for me.

    If you are interested in that post, I can send some links about that project.

    Best wishes,
    Andrew From Orel

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 05:10:13 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Andrew From Orel to All on Wed Jun 23 2021 01:13 pm

    Hello!

    Several days ago I've seen one video at YouTube about ICQ revival project called KICQ. Some enthusiasts use their servers for connection by OSCAR protocol. So, if you have an old gadget which doesn't support New ICQ by Mail.ru, you can register new UIN at their server (195.66.114.37:5190) and l in using old clients like ICQ 2003, QIP 2005 etc.

    After watching that video I decided to try it out. I installed ICQ 2003b on WinXP virtual machine as it described at manual (http://narodweb.ru/kicq.htm and registration was easy. Later I installed old Kopete from KDE3 on my Raspberry Pi 2 and successfully logged in.

    Yes, it's alive. There are not so much users, but they are online.

    OK, I must add that there were some problems to make it work with Pidgin and new Kopete (they are not compatible with old server IServerd which is used i KICQ), but it was an interesting experience for me.

    If you are interested in that post, I can send some links about that project

    Best wishes,
    Andrew From Orel


    I know it is a Duckduckgo or Gigablast away, but for the sake of keeping the relevant content here, why is ICQ interesting (in your opinion) and what does it offer to users?

    I mean, if you want to get users you need a reason to get them on board...
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 08:25:58 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Andrew From Orel to All on Wed Jun 23 2021 01:13 pm

    Yes, it's alive. There are not so much users, but they are online.

    OK, I must add that there were some problems to make it work with Pidgin and new Kopete (they are not compatible with old server IServerd which is used in KICQ), but it was an interesting experience for me.

    If you are interested in that post, I can send some links about that project.


    nobody uses instant msging anymore.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu Jun 24 08:27:52 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Arelor to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 2021 05:10 am


    I know it is a Duckduckgo or Gigablast away, but for the sake of keeping the relevant content here, why is ICQ interesting (in your opinion) and what does it offer to users?

    I mean, if you want to get users you need a reason to get them on board... --

    it's owned by mail.ru since around 2010.
    it's mostly russians.
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  • From Andrew From Orel@VERT/BLUENOTE to Brian Rogers on Sat Jun 26 00:34:40 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Brian Rogers to Arelor on Thu Jun 24 2021 11:58 am

    Later I installed old Kopete from KDE3 on my Raspberry Pi 2
    and successfully logged in.
    Have you tried the older Kopete found on TrinityDesktop?

    Yes. When I said "Kopete from KDE3" I meant "kopete-trinity" from the Trinity Project repository.

    Also each "region" seems to have their favorite apps. ICQ was always a fan favorite of those in Russia and that area. I'm sure they'll enjoy this rewrite.

    Also it was the first instant messaging app I've ever used.

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  • From Andrew From Orel@VERT/BLUENOTE to Arelor on Sat Jun 26 10:58:50 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Arelor to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 2021 05:10 am

    I know it is a Duckduckgo or Gigablast away, but for the sake of keeping the relevant content here, why is ICQ interesting (in your opinion) and what does it offer to users?

    I mean, if you want to get users you need a reason to get them on board...

    OSCAR protocol had good part of open documentation. And there were enough tries of reverse engineering of some closed features used in old ICQ. So, now we have open-source implementation of server-side application (for example, KICQ is currently using IServerd as their server - http://iserverd.khstu.ru/install.html) and client-side applications (as mentioned above, I use 'kopete-trinity').

    Also, there are bunch of ICQ/QIP clients adapted for feature-phones with Java (Nokia, Sony Ericsson etc.) which are not compatible with New Mail.ru ICQ. And that project can make them useful again.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Andrew From Orel on Sun Jun 27 07:41:00 2021
    Andrew From Orel wrote to Arelor <=-

    OSCAR protocol had good part of open documentation. And there were
    enough tries of reverse engineering of some closed features used in old ICQ.

    Back in 2006, I worked at a company that used AIM as a corporate standard
    for IM. We had an OSCAR proxy (I forget who made it) that would work as a server if AIM's servers were unavailable.

    It worked surprisingly well, we had a call center across town and an outsourced call center in New Mexico and kept in touch.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Jul 7 22:05:22 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 08:54 am

    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 2021 08:25 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable replacement for internet messengers. Sure, you can text people on your phone, but you need their phone number (which people might not be willing to share all the time), and if you want to message people in other countries that way, your carrier might charge extra fees for international texting (or you might not be able to text internationally at all). There are apps like WhatsApp, that let you text people around the world for free, but you'd still be sharing your phone number (which you might not want to do).

    One thing that was unique to ICQ years ago was its user profile and random user search feature. Years ago, I found people to talk to all over the world that way, and I thought that was pretty cool.


    maybe because people dont want to be instantly available, or they like to communicate like they do via snapchat and instagram and facebook.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Jul 7 22:07:43 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 06:11 pm

    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 08:54 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug>
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    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's an additional feature on a social media site.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Jul 8 09:53:33 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 06:11 pm

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug> --

    I do too; I use Facebook's messenger to keep in touch with some family & friends. I think the nice thing about apps like that is they're available for both PC and mobile devices.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jul 8 09:55:28 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:05 pm

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable

    maybe because people dont want to be instantly available, or they like to communicate like they do via snapchat and instagram and facebook.

    You don't have to always be available to chat with those. I'd always sign out of the messengers when I wasn't available, and the messengers typically show your online/offline status.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Sat Jul 10 07:57:37 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Fri Jul 09 2021 12:55 pm

    Yep, I use messenger and Skype for the most part.

    Discord and Slack, while not technically instant messengers, also get heavily used.


    It's nice being a "nobody".


    you probably just use those those things to spite me.

    so why do you use 5 different things? why not use email, sms or just use one? ---
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Mon Jul 19 22:53:34 2021
    On 7/7/2021 8:07 PM, MRO wrote:

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's
    an additional feature on a social media site.

    Aim and yahoo messengers were an additional feature for social media
    sites. ;-) I think the rise and fall of XMPP had a lot to do with it,
    we were all heading towards interoperability, while the masses were
    going to google and facebook, then google said f-that, and it was over.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tue Jul 20 09:10:48 2021
    Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jul 19 2021 10:53 pm

    On 7/7/2021 8:07 PM, MRO wrote:

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's
    an additional feature on a social media site.

    Aim and yahoo messengers were an additional feature for social media
    sites. ;-) I think the rise and fall of XMPP had a lot to do with it,

    aim and yahoo didnt know what the fuck they were
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